Thursday, February 17, 2022

What if The Rochester Red Wings could do it over

What if you could do it over?

Jwperry was an owner here from season 1 thru 41.  He won 90 games with this team twice and never made it past the Division Championship Series. Playing as the Rochester Red Wings or sometimes Redwings he had a combined win percentage below .450   To say this team was a disappointment  would be an under statement. With this deep dive I thought I would go take a look at three year period that could have turned this team into a serious contender.

Rochester Red Wings Seasons  16-18

Season 15 ended with Rochester going 72-90, this was two years after one of their 90 win seasons.  They would be drafting 10th due to their weak finish but also drafting 18/24/26/35/43/47/53/68/76/80/81 thanks in large part to letting all their Free Agents walk and picking up 11 additional Type A/B and even a 1 Type D pick. This draft could be the type of draft that would set this team up for the next 10 to 20 seasons if handled correctly.

With there 12 first round picks they selected players who played in the majors for a combined 56 Seasons+. However 36 of those were from the top two picks, Ed Treadway and Gil Gibson.  I don’t think there could be many complaints about those two picks as both were eventually selected to the Hall of Fame, though neither would go in wearing a Red Wings cap, more on that later. 

Treadway was an MVP and Silver Slugger who had a strong arm in RF but was probably better suited to play 1st base. His best season probably came in ’25 when he hit 51HR-143RBI with 15 steals and a 303/371/615 Slash line. He also only made 5 negative plays in RF while picking up 8 assists. But all this came with Jackson as berrysboys had traded for Treadway in ’18.  In return Rochester received 4.5 million and Junior Leroux. He went 11-9 with a 3.52 in his only full season with the Red Wings, the next season he was 1-8 before being traded to Iowa with Arthur Keagle for Randy Tucker and Howard Epstein in season 19. None of those trades would work out well for Rochester

Taken 18th overall Gil Gibson might be the greatest closer this world has ever had. 652 Career saves and a 2.79 in 988 games. The same season Treadway would win his MVP  Gibson would win one of his 5 Fireman awards. 47 saves in 51 chances with a 2.67 ERA and a 1.08 WHIP. Not his best season by far but it matches well with Treadway in season ’25. Of course as mentioned before, like Treadway,  Gibson was traded before ever reaching the majors. Jwperry acquired two players in return for GG, Paul Stevens a solid arm who won 32 games over his three year career with Rochester, also an ERA around 4. He went unsigned when he became a free agent. Also in the deal was Efrain Ueno a third baseman who twice hit over 20 homers with Rochester but was at best an average player who also was released to Free agency.

Now that we have reversed trading away those two great players, lets see what we can do with the other ten picks?

24th Don Kelleher  Now I don’t think its fair to replace a pick with someone taken 50 picks later, so lets say we can only replace them with a pick within 5 later from where they are taken. Kelleher was a fine defender at 3rd and a ok bat. I am going to flip him out for #27 Spike Forbes by no means an amazing pitcher in ’25 he went 11-11 with a 3.81. I think a nice piece to slide into the back of any rotation

26th Buck Kuttler never reached the majors so it’s a easy trade out for #29 Rob Farr. In ’26 he would throw a no hitter and make the All-Star team. But lets match him up with everyone else. In ’25 he went 13-11 in 211 innings  with a 3.03 ERA. This rotation is starting to look good.

35th Everth Reyes I will actually keep this guy some pretty good pop and would be a nice bench piece on this new team I am building. Hit 85 homers his first three years in Rochester but was a part time player in ’25 hitting 308 with 13HR and 50 RBI in 85 Games while playing 1st/2nd/3rd/LF/CF

43rdLuigi Barcelo played 52 uneventful games in the majors. Not a lot to choose from in the next five so I took #45 Morgan Miller. Pitched out of the bullpen for parts of four season with ’25 being his last and best season. 7-4 with a 4.02 ERA in 123 Bullpen innings.

47th Buddy Kimbrel might be the easiest trade for a draft pick. Kimbrel never reached the majors so switching him for Roscoe Barkley #51 is a no-brainer. Barkley was a 3 X All-Star and 2 X Fire man. In season ’25 he was truly awesome pitching in 93 games going 12-3 with a Sub 1 WHIP and an ERA of 2.72

53rd Deacon Basile went 1-8 in his short career.  So flipping him out for #56 Heath Ray is a gimme. If you will let me take him from season ’26 when he drove in 103 runs it makes it even easier.

68th Sergio Ferrell was a smooth fielding Middle Infielder who was not much with the bat so lets trade him for a Catcher #73 Ringo Flood  ’25 was his last season in the majors and he wasn’t much of a defender but he could hit.

76th Alvin Newhouser never pitched in the majors, so lets flip that pick for #78 Stryker Pagan  In season ’24 he made 22+ plays at first knocking out 24 homers.

80th Hersh McGraw  and 81st Benji Alomar had no major league service but honestly I don’t see anyone worth taking in their places

Now that we have 40% of this new roster figured out lets see what we could do next year

One of the side effects of letting all your free agents go is usually your team will take a bit of a stumble that season…and stumble they did. Dropping from 72 wins all the way down to a last place finish with 45 wins and got themselves the 1st pick overall.

Rochester had a solid pick and grabbed Nipsey Paulsen.  Nispey was a big hitting COF but I think we have enough of those on Rochester already so lets grab the 2nd player overall Bart Saunders. He was a smooth fielding 3rd Baseman, but I think for the sake of this team we can move him over to SS where his bat looks even better. In ’25 he had a career season batting 306 with 28HR and 102 RBI.

Jwperry had another pick in the 1st round taking Arthur Keagle, who only played 1 season in the majors and was traded away anyway so lets flip him out for a pick just 3 later Vladimir Calvo.  While he had a sub par career win loss record of 133-175 if we take him in season ’25 he had a career year going 15-12 and looks good closer to the top of this new rotation.

Oddly enough the team didn’t bounce back to respectability right away and got the 4th and 50th picks in season 18. The one pick never signed and the 50th had very little impact at the big league level…so lets switch them out. The 4th pick is a tough one to choose from Rick Gentry? PT Lopez? Antone Gardner? Edward Hughes?  None are bad choices and I would love to see a lineup with Hicthcok and Gentry this team probably needs another arm. So if we are playing the What If game let me take Gardner and What if that he doesn’t get horribly injured in ’24 and lose 5 overall points and put him as our teams Ace.

Now with a pick at #50 you cant really expect to hit a winner but the player that was selected signed for almost 1.5 Million which is a big bonus for that part of the draft. So at 4 picks later and for just about a third of the cost they could have had Mikey Milton. Not a game changer but 376 career steals and very good glove man at 2nd base isn’t bad for I pick in the 50’s

So I cant say that I have solved every problem with the Rochester roster but its got to be better then the team that lost 100 games 4 times and 90+ 3 other times in the 20’s.  A solid rotation, the foundation of a great bullpen and a majority of the lineup filled by solid players and some super stars. The holes left could be easily shored up by some moderate free agent signings.

 

1st-Pagan’24                       24-62                     1-4          244/301/417

2nd-Milton ’25                    5-37                       36-8       220/272/293

SS-Saunders ’26                 28-102                   2-4          306/346/505

3rd-Ray’26                            17-103                   11-11     304/373/453

RF-Treadway ’25                51-143                 15-6       303/373/615 MVP

C-Flood ’25                          22-69                     0/0         276/346/802

Bench-Reyes ’25               13-50                     0-3          308/367/491

 

SP-Gardner-23                  19-9       0/0         221IP 74BB-178K              1.37-3.34

SP- RobFarr ’25                 13-10     0/0         210ip 60BB-147K              1.18-3.03

SP-Calvo  ’25                       15-11     0/0         212IP 64BB-153K              1.25-3.52

SP-Forbes ’25                     11-11    0/0         184ip 74BB-127K              1.44-3.81

 

LR- Miller’25                       7-4          1 save   123IP 86BB-96K                 1.46-4.02

SU-Barkley ’25                   12-3       2/8         86IP  19BB-76K                  0.98-2.72

CL-Gibson’25                      0-1         47/51    57ip  20BB-52K                 1.08-2.67

 

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